DVM의 Jean Hofve 박사와 함께하는 고양이 사료 알레르기

DVM의 Jean Hofve 박사의 고양이 사료 알레르기

2013년 6월 7일에 처음 게시됨 고양이 사료 알레르기에 대해 Floppycats와 이야기할 시간을 내어준 Dr. Jean에게 감사합니다. Jean의 책인 The Complete Guide to Holistic Cat Care:An Illustrated Handbook은 전체적인 고양이 건강과 관리에 관한 훌륭한 책입니다. Jean은 또한 그녀의 사이트에서 Jean Hofve 박사와 함께 고양이의 음식 알레르기를 다루고 있습니다. 또한 그녀는 Only Natural Pet에 기고한 기사 "알레르기 개요 - 3부작 시리즈 중 1부"입니다. 진 박사와의 다른 인터뷰:

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DVM의 Jean Hofve 박사와 함께하는 고양이 사료 알레르기

오디오 녹음:Dr. Jean Hofve, DVM의 고양이 사료 알레르기(여기를 클릭) 또는 아래 YouTube 동영상을 통해 들어보세요.Floppycats의 Jenny: 확인. 녹음되고 있는 것 같아요. 라고 들었나요?Dr. 장: 예.Floppycats의 Jenny: 그래 좋아. 그래서 오늘은 2013년 6월 7일이고 우리는 Jr. Jean Hof에게 고양이 사료 알레르기에 대해 이야기할 것입니다. 진 박사님, 인터뷰에 응해주셔서 대단히 감사합니다.박사님. 장: 오, 반갑습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 알레르기의 원인이 무엇인지 일반적으로 말씀해 주시겠습니까?Dr. 장: 네. 사람, 개, 고양이, 거북이와 물고기의 알레르기는 아마도 단백질 때문일 것입니다. 어떤 이유로 신체는 단백질에 심하게 반응합니다. 알레르기는 큰 문제입니다. 그들은 전체 면역 체계를 포함합니다. 그들은 특정 단백질에 대한 항체를 만드는 것을 포함합니다. 고양이, 고양이 및 개에서 알레르기는 만성적으로 노출되는 것들에 형성되는 경향이 있습니다. 사람들이 벌침에 처음 쏘였을 때 알레르기가 있을 수 있는 반면, 동물에서는 매우 드문 일이며 그러한 종류의 아나필락시스 반응은 매우 드뭅니다. 그러나 우리가 보는 것은 꽃가루, 먼지, 집먼지 진드기, 음식, 때로는 침구, 때로는 환경에 있는 것들, 카펫과 같은 것들에 대한 알레르기가 있다는 것입니다. 흡입성 알레르기는 단연코 가장 흔하지만 음식 알레르기도 발생합니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 당신은 우리가 이것에 대해 이메일을 보낼 때 많은 고양이가 음식 과민증이 있지만 실제로 음식 알레르기는 아니라고 언급했습니다. 그것이 무엇인지 증상과 구별하는 방법이 있습니까?닥터. 장: 좋지 않아. 음식에 반응하는 고양이가 있습니까? 두 가지 가능성이 있습니다. 하나는 알레르기가 아니라 색소, 향료, 방부제 또는 식품의 일부 구성 요소와 같은 식품의 무언가 또는 하나 이상의 물질에 반응한다는 것입니다. 알레르기보다 과민증이 있는 것이 훨씬 더 일반적입니다. 그러나 둘 다 피부 징후와 설사 또는 구토와 같은 GI 징후를 유발할 수 있습니다. 그러나 음식 알레르기는 고양이의 피부 증상을 유발할 가능성이 훨씬 더 큽니다. 개에서 흡입 알레르기는 일반적으로 피부 증상을 유발하고 고양이에서는 어느 정도 유발합니다. 그리고 사람들은 흡입 알레르기에 대해 약간 혼란스러워합니다. 우리는 그것을 꽃가루 알레르기라고 부를 것입니다. 그러나 개와 고양이의 경우 꽃가루 알레르기가 없습니다. 꽃가루나 먼지 등에 알레르기가 있으면 일반적으로 피부 증상이 나타나거나 발진이나 약간의 피부염이 생기거나 가려운 부위가 생겨서 핥기 시작하고 그냥 가기만 해도 핫스팟이 생깁니다. 너무 많은 후에. 위장 징후는 음식 과민증일 가능성이 더 높지만 알레르기일 수 있습니다. 그리고 알려드리는 방법은 음식을 바꾸는 것입니다. 하지만 알레르기라면 음식을 바꾸는 것만으로는 충분하지 않을 수 있으며 다이어트 시도를 하고 싶어질 것입니다. 이제 기본적으로 시험 치료를 시작하기 전에 너무 비슷하기 때문에 구분할 수 있는 방법이 없습니다. 그러나 특히 설사의 경우 알레르기보다 음식 과민증일 가능성이 더 큽니다. 두 경우 모두 다른 음식으로 반응을 볼 수 있지만 음식 알레르기는 음식을 완전히 바꿔야 합니다. 치킨을 베이스로 한 음식이라면 토끼 같은 곳에 가겠죠. 단백질을 바꿔야 합니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 알겠습니다.박사. 장: 우리는 다이어트 시도가 무엇을 포함하는지에 대해 조금 더 자세히 이야기할 수 있습니다. 상당히 힘든 과정입니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 예. 내 고양이를 건사료에서 습식사료로 바꾼 고양이 중 하나이기 때문에 식단 변경이 그렇게 재미있지는 않지만 이점은 그만한 가치가 있습니다.Dr. 장: 나는 고양이를 키웠고, 고객 고양이가 건사료에서 습식사료로 전환하는 데 2년이 걸린다는 것을 알고 있습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 맙소사.닥터. 장: 그리고 제 고양이는 습식사료를 잘 먹었습니다. 하지만 생식을 시작하면 고양이 한 마리가 먹습니다. 그녀는 무엇이든 먹을 것입니다. 내가 코끼리를 땅에 묶으면 그녀는 코끼리를 먹을 것입니다. 그녀는 괜찮았다. 그러나 Spiritess가 그녀의 이름인 다른 고양이 Spirit은 내가 그녀가 한 입 베어 물기 전에 내가 그녀를 보기 전에 3년 동안 그 날 음식을 젖은 음식 옆에 놓아두었습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 와우.박사님. 장: 그녀를 개종시키는 것은 범죄 행위였지만 그녀는 3년 동안 그 음식을 먹는 것을 지켜보았습니다. 그녀는 완고하고 완고한 소녀였습니다. 그러나 결국 그녀는 그것을 극복했고 얼마 후 그녀는 날 음식을 좋아했습니다. 하지만 소년, 그녀는 까다로운 쿠키였습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 예. 나는 Charlie와 Trig에게 날 음식을 먹게 하려고 노력하고 있지만 그 과정이 두렵습니다.Dr. 장: 예. 내 것은 날 음식을 먹습니다. 그들은 Rad Cat을 좋아하고 내가 음식을 만들어 주면 더 좋아합니다. 그들은 엄마의 요리를 더 좋아합니다. 그러지 않았으면 합니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 오른쪽. 물론 그렇습니다.Dr. 장: 네, 사랑이라는 약간의 추가 조미료를 넣고 있기 때문입니다. 그들은 알고있다. 그들은 그것이 언제 있는지 확실히 알고 있습니다. 그러나 건사료 대 습식사료에 대해 지적하고 싶은 한 가지는 건사료가 훨씬 더 일반적으로 식품 알레르기와 관련이 있다는 것입니다. 그 이유 중 일부는 건조 식품이 두 번 열처리되기 때문입니다. 랜더링 공장에서 250~260도 이상의 고온에서 조리한 육분과 단백질분을 1차로 렌더한 후 고압력 압출 공정을 거친다. 따라서 열은 단백질을 변성시킵니다. 단백질은 매우 흥미로운 분자이며 모두 매우 특정한 구성으로 접혀 있습니다. 위장관은 그곳에서 무엇을 기대해야 하는지 알고 있습니다. 특정 구성을 처리할 준비가 되었습니다. 그러나 단백질이 변성되면 변형됩니다. 접힘이 잘못되어 모든 것이 거칠어지며 면역 체계가 이에 반응할 가능성이 훨씬 높아집니다. 그리고 실제로 음식 알레르기가 있는 고양이가 건식 알레르기 식단에 반응하지 않는다는 사례 연구가 발표되었습니다. 그러나 같은 식단의 통조림에 넣으면 모든 것이 즉시 깨끗해졌습니다. 통조림은 한 번 약 160-165도까지 가열되며 일반적으로 캔에 들어 있습니다. 여전히 박테리아를 죽일만큼 높고 단백질을 변성시킬만큼 높습니다. 하지만 건조 식품 가공만큼 해로운 영향은 없는 것 같습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 흥미로운. 작년에 덴버에 있을 때 그 Purina 공장 옆을 운전할 때 내가 어떤 고속도로를 타고 있었는지 모르지만 냄새가 나는데, 그 모든 더위 때문에 이해가 됩니다.Dr. 장: 네, 그렇습니다. 그리고 퓨리나 건조 식품에 들어가는 재료 - 우리는 거기에 들어갈 필요가 없습니다. 스테이크와 감자가 진짜가 아니라고 가정해 보겠습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 예. 특히 냄새가 심하게 나는 것도 그래서인지도 모르겠다. 알겠습니다. 일부 증상에 대해 말씀하셨지만 고양이가 음식에 포함된 무언가에 알레르기가 있을 때 어떤 증상이 나타나는지 간략히 설명하자면 글머리 기호로 표시해 두셨나요?Dr. 장: 피부 증상인 경우 일반적으로 군에 입대하는 것에 알레르기가 있는 경우인 군 피부염과 달리 군 피부염이라고 하는 것이 발생합니다. Miliary는 많은 작은 반점을 의미합니다. 기본적으로 발진이며 특히 얼굴, 눈 주위, 눈과 귀 사이의 머리카락이 얇은 부분에 나타나는 경향이 있습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 예. 알겠습니다. 본 적이 있습니다. 네.박사님. 장: 때때로 발이 가렵지만 대개 머리 주위에 있습니다. 나는 어깨 뒤쪽에서 그것을 보았고 그들은 그것에 닿을 수 있기 때문에 엄청난 피해를 줄 수 있습니다. 얼굴, 그들은 가려워서 뒷발로 쫓아갑니다. 가끔 뱃살에 보입니다. 그러나 이러한 증상은 흡입성 알레르기일 수 있으며 모든 종류의 알레르기일 수 있습니다. 그것들은 많은 것들이 될 수 있습니다. 따라서 수의사와 협력하여 무엇이 있는지 알아보는 것이 중요합니다. 그런 다음 이것을 시도하고 다음을 확인하세요. 생검은 일반적으로 염증이라고만 말하고 다음에 대해 아무 것도 알려주지 않기 때문에 보람이 없습니다. 원인. 이제 고양이가 꽃가루나 집먼지 진드기 또는 공기 중에 떠다니는 것과 같은 흡입 알레르기에 반응하여 증상을 나타내더라도 동일한 증상을 나타냅니다. 그러나 저자극성 다이어트 실험은 종종 이러한 문제를 해결하는 데 도움이 됩니다. 제 이론은 과학적 근거가 없지만 20년 동안 관찰한 결과에 기반하기 때문입니다. 식단을 단순화하거나 식단을 변경하여 일반적인 알레르겐이 ' t 거기에서 나는 식단을 단순화하거나 통조림이나 생으로 또는 집에서 만드는 것으로 생각합니다. 면역 체계에 제시되는 알레르겐이 더 적습니다. 면역 체계가 정리해야 하는 쓰레기가 더 적습니다. 그리고 저는 단순히 일을 단순화하는 것이 면역 체계에 휴식을 줄 수 있다고 생각합니다. 때로는 식이 요법에 반응하더라도 음식 알레르기가 아닐 수 있습니다. 그래서 구분하기가 굉장히 까다롭습니다. 다른 주요 증상은 설사와 구토이며 때로는 구토가 유일한 징후입니다. 염증은 일반적으로 관의 아래쪽에 있지만 생검 없이는 무슨 일이 일어나고 있는지 진단하기가 매우 어렵습니다. 그러나 터보 알레르기와 같은 염증성 장 질환은 동일한 징후를 보일 것입니다. 장 림프종, 암은 동일한 징후를 가질 수 있습니다. 그리고 해결되지 않은 음식 알레르기가 암으로 발전할 수 있는 염증성 장 질환을 진행할 수 있다는 생각이 있습니다. 문제는 그것이 단지 구토라면 20년의 연습에서 나의 결론은 고양이가 토하는 것을 좋아하고 너무 자주한다는 것입니다. 그래서 제가 경험한 규칙은 일주일에 한 번, 한 달에 두 번 구토를 한다면, 특히 풀이나 머리카락이 있는 경우에는 그다지 걱정하지 않는다는 것입니다. 당신은 그것을 자극으로 분필하거나 단지 그것을 좋아할 수 있습니다. 그래서 그들은 스스로 토하고, 너무 빨리 먹고, 너무 많이 먹고, 나방을 먹습니다. 괜찮아. 그러나 일주일에 한두 번 이상 더 자주 발생하고 빈도가 증가하는 패턴에 있다면 새싹을 없애고 싶을 것입니다. 당신은 그것이 더 이상 길을 따라가는 것을 원하지 않을 것입니다. 물론 헤어볼 치료제로 시험적으로 치료할 수도 있습니다. 헤어볼 핵이 천식과 정확히 비슷하게 들리기 때문에 위장관과 천식에서 무슨 일이 일어나고 있는지 종종 구별됩니다. 그래서 당신은 그것들을 분리하고 싶을 것이고 때로는 바셀린이나 헤어볼 치료제를 제공하는 것이 어떤 일이 일어나고 있는지에 대해 당신을 어느 쪽으로든 기울일 것입니다. 고양이는 복잡합니다. 많은 것들이 있지만 바세린으로 해결되는 헤어볼이면 천식도 안 되고 음식 알레르기도 별반 다르지 않을 것이다. 따라서 집에서 간단하게 수행할 수 있고 어떤 일이 일어나는지 지켜보기만 하면 됩니다. 하지만 더 확실한 조치를 취하기 전에 너무 오래 방치하지 마세요.Floppycats의 Jenny: 알겠습니다. 처음 듣는 사람들을 위해 바셀린이 무엇을 의미하는지 간단히 설명해 주시겠습니까?Dr. 장: 헤어볼 치료제는 기본적으로 미네랄 오일이나 바셀린이기 때문에 실제로 그렇습니다. 저는 바셀린을 좋아합니다. 그것은 몸에서 완전히 불활성입니다. 신체가 분해할 수 있는 것보다 더 많은 탄소가 사슬에 있습니다. 따라서 원하는 위치에 정확히 위장관에 머물게 됩니다. 머리카락을 목적지인 쓰레기통까지 흩뿌립니다. 바셀린이 가득한 손가락, 많은 고양이들이 실제로 그것을 좋아합니다. 그리고 내 것은 물론 브랜드 이름 Vaseline을 선호합니다. 그들은 제네릭을 먹지 않을 것입니다. 다른 고양이는 제네릭이 좋습니다. 그들은 Cadillac보다 Petromalt보다 Laxatone을 더 좋아합니다. 그것들은 모두 동일한 원칙을 기반으로 합니다. 기름을 바르고 머리카락을 모두 붙인 다음 반대쪽 끝으로 밀어내면 바셀린이 아주 잘 됩니다. 어떤 사람들은 헤어볼을 위해 식물성 기름이나 다른 종류의 기름을 주는데 문제는 기름을 위장에서 빼낼 수 있다는 것입니다. 좋은 기름이지만 이러한 기름은 분해되어 몸에 흡수될 수 있으며 반드시 나쁜 것은 아닙니다. 그러나 여권의 의무는 끝나지 않습니다. 여기까지만 이해하고 걱정이 됩니다. 그래서 나는 불활성이고 안전하고 처음부터 끝까지 같은 형태로 끝나는 것을 좋아합니다. 꽤 편리한 기능입니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 그러니 티스푼으로 한 숟갈 떠서 입에 넣으시겠습니까?Dr. 장: 내가 하는 일은 작은 손가락을 꽉 채우고 항아리에 작은 손가락을 넣는 것입니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 알겠습니다.박사. 장: 그리고 내 고양이는 그렇게 평범하게 먹을 것입니다. 다른 사람들은 헤어볼 준비의 일부에서 향료를 좋아합니다. 그렇게 하실거면 튜브안에 있는것들에 1인치정도 있으면 꽤 괜찮은 용량을 생각하고 2~3일 연속으로 해보고 봅니다. 좋은 평가를 해주세요. 그러나 그것이 아무 변화가 없다면 수의사에게 전화하여 가능성이 무엇인지 또는 그 또는 그녀가 무엇인지에 대해 논의하고 싶을 것입니다. 요즘에는 내가보고하게되어 기쁩니다. Floppycats의 Jenny: 오, 좋아요.박사님. 장: 예. 콜로라도 주립대에서 제가 다니는 수업은 남자보다 여자가 더 많았던 첫 번째 수업이었습니다. 오랜만이라 잘 지내고 있습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 좋은. 나는 여성과 더 나은 경험을 했기 때문에 그 말을 들으니 기쁩니다. 남성들에게는 불쾌감을 주지 않습니다.Dr. 장: 남자들이 좋은 수의사가 될 수 없다는 것은 아닙니다. 하지만 여자들은 고양이를 좀 더 잘 이해하는 경향이 있는 것 같아요. 고양이의 본성은 음양을 보면 더 여성스러워요. 고양이의 본성은 음이 더 많고 개는 양이 더 많습니다. 그래서 나는 거기에 중국적인 것이 있다고 생각합니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 그래, 난 동의. 그렇기 때문에 여성도 고양이와 항상 관련이 있다고 생각합니다.Dr. 장: 대부분 그렇습니다. 잭슨 제외.Floppycats의 Jenny: 네, 맞습니다.Dr. 장: 그는 [INAUDIBLE 19:00] 역할이 너무 많습니다.Floppycats의 Jenny: 예. 그래서 당신은 다른 질문에 대한 답을 다루었지만 음식 과민증이나 알레르기가 치료되지 않으면 어떻게 됩니까?Dr. 장: 글쎄요, 음식 과민증은 아마도 더욱 악화될 것이고 쓰레기통에 있는 악취가 나는 쓰레기통에 싫증이 나거나 청소하거나 고양이 토하는 일에 질릴 것입니다. 결국 무언가를 하게 된다는 점에서 일종의 자기 제한적인 경향이 있습니다. 당신이 뭔가를 고칠 때까지 그것은 거의 줄어들지 않고 계속될 것입니다. 내가 말했듯이 알레르기는 악화될 수 있습니다. 염증성 장질환으로 발전할 수 있습니다. 그들은 림프종으로 변할 수 있습니다. 그래서 가고 싶지 않은 길입니다. 증상이 악화되고 증상이 악화되어 동물이 더 불편하고 가렵고 경련을 일으키거나 무엇을 하든 될 수 있기 때문에 가능한 한 빨리 파악하고 싶습니다. 악화. 그리고 그들은 음식을 흡수하지 않고 카펫 위에 버리기 때문에 살이 빠지기 시작할 것입니다. 음식 알레르기는 전체 면역 체계를 포함하기 때문에 더 심각합니다. And once the immune system is kind of primed to make an allergy, to create an allergenic response with antibodies, the whole nine yards, they tend to do that in response to more things. You may start off with a food allergy, but if you don’t treat it they may then form other allergies. Like if you change an allergic cat food to something they’re not allergic to, if you leave it be, this is why I really emphasize variety and rotating food, if you put them on a different protein, eventually they will probably develop an allergy to that also. I like food rotation, and since I don’t like dry foods for kitties anyway, I’m sure we’ve probably talked about that, with canned foods, once they’re eating canned or if they’re eating raw, it’s much easier. You can vary the flavor of canned food every meal. You can vary the type of protein in the raw diet with every batch, which is every couple of weeks or freeze two or three kinds. Make two or three batches, one with protein, one chicken, one bison or emu or whatever you want, or lamb, rabbit, there are all kinds of ones out there if your cats is willing to eat some of the prepared diets. Honest Kitchen makes the dehydrated diet, and they’re not cooked. The diets that aren’t cooked tend not to produce allergies but anything’s possible. But certainly if you take a cat that’s allergic to chicken and because chicken is in everything nowadays, chicken is the most common allergen in dogs and cats right now. If you look at the studies, they don’t necessarily list chicken. But the allergists and internal medicine people say oh yes, totally. It’s number one. So chicken, beef, fish, wheat, corn and diary are the top allergens. But if you change from a processed chicken diet to a raw chicken diet, there’s a good chance that they will not react to the raw chicken because the proteins haven’t been altered. There’s nothing in it that they’re not kind of designed to eat and cats can eat bird without—Chris Rock, you know the comedian?Jenny of Floppycats: Yes.Dr. Jean: Once did a rift about food allergies and he said that all his friends have kids that are allergic to peanuts or shellfish or whatever, and he was like “What is allergic to food? 말이 안 된다. How could you possibly be allergic to food?” And we don’t get allergic to food. We get allergic to processed foods, cooked in some way to not be allergic to the things that are raw. Raw food diets—now I will caution people that if you have a cat with a severe food allergy, bordering or into inflammatory bowel disease, now you’ve got a leaky gut, you’ve got a gut that’s inflamed, the blood vessels are swollen, the cells are swollen, the junctions between the cells are stretched out and they’re not stable any more. So now what you have is a situation where if you feed raw, potentially the bacteria that’s in all raw meat can get through. So you have a higher risk of salmonella or some other organism getting a foot hold and causing a real bad problem in there. So if you want to switch a sever allergy or an IBD cat to raw, I would say start by cooking it a little bit just so it’s pink and not raw, raw. And then as the gut heals you can cook it less and less and less. I know people who’ve gone straight whole turkey dry food to raw overnight no problems. But it’s an increased risk and of course switching a food abruptly can cause a world of hurt anyway. Cats may be willing to eat it or they may not. So a gradual transition is always the best way to go with a kitty because you’re changing a lot of things when you do that. You’re also presenting a different form of food to the bacteria in the gut. And the bacteria are used to doing one thing and the populations have adjusted to that. If you suddenly feed a whole different thing, you’re going to probably have some diarrhea or some other reaction because if you had never eaten raw food before, you might not react well to it. Your gut may say oh that’s interesting. I don’t know what else, protein, would be different from but I’m sure there’s something.Jenny of Floppycats:  Yes.Dr. Jean: The gut appreciates having a transition period to readjust the populations of the bacteria, to gear up the different enzymes. I think it’s just smarter to do a gradual transition. Now if you have an extremely allergic cat and you’re scared to death that something really bad is going to happen, they’re losing weight, you’re desperate, yes, try cold turkey. 잃을 게 뭐 있어? If you have a cat that’s on its way to a very bad state, yes, if you’re that desperate, yes, try it. But in general, we hope that people catch things earlier and you can do it in a more logical fashion.Jenny of Floppycats: 예. I like gradual in general. It makes more sense.Dr. Jean: Yes, and if you’re transitioning do the digestive enzymes and probiotics to help with that transition. Those are always good. I’d recommend them to put them in the food regardless of what you’re feeding or what you’re changing but especially if you’re doing a transition. Definitely use the digestive enzymes and probiotics.Jenny of Floppycats: 확인. So treatment options available. You mentioned diet trials, we’ve kind of been talking about them already.Dr. Jean: 네, 조금. But what people don’t understand when you’re dealing with an intolerance, you may be able to just change brands and you’ll get a different result. Because if you change the recipe and that one little thing isn’t there anymore, you can change flavors, you can change brands and probably you’ll get a good response. With an allergy, you want to be real clear about the change you’re making and you want to get a completely different set of proteins and carbs because the carbs contain some protein. Corn has a lot of protein. So if you’re going to do that, that’s why they make the venison and rice or rabbit and sweet peas or salmon and sweet potato. But a lot of times if it’s not specifically promoted as a hypoallergenic or a novel protein, that’s what we usually call it, that’s technically more correct, you have to make a complete change from whatever you’re feeding to an entirely new thing, and you have to be very religious about it. So if you’re getting away from chicken and you’re feeding rabbit and rice, and you still give [INAUDIBLE 29:20] or something or fish or something, because most cat foods also have fish meal or fish something in them for Omega 3’s. But if you give Bonito flakes or something or tripe that have chicken, you’re undoing your whole shtick right there because one exposure to that protein is going to cause a new allergenic response to be generated. So it takes 8, 10 sometimes even 12 weeks. Now if your systems are only gastrointestinal, then the response can be very fast within a couple of weeks. But if it’s a skin symptom, those take a long, long time to clear up because those antibodies have to fade out, you have to not stimulate new antibodies every day, and if you accidentally expose them to that allergenic protein, you’re going to have problems. So it’s really important to understand how strict you have to be. If you have multiple cats, they all have to be eating that because a stray molecule could really set off your cat’s whole immune system. It’s like a flea bite allergy where one flea bite can trigger a massive allergic response head to toe and they can be really, really miserable from one flea. So it’s just that easy to trigger the response when they’re already primed and ready. They’re on hyper vigilant immune surveillance in that way. If I see one of those suckers popping its head over the horizon, I am going to blast it to Mars. You really have to give the immune system a chance to settle down and say alright, OK, I think we’re in the clear. I think we’ve got them all. And then once all the symptoms are cleared up, if you’re feeling lucky you can try to reintroduce the suspect proteins back, but be ready for a bad reaction. My philosophy is why provoke it? Just stay with alternate proteins forever. 그것은 간단합니다. One study not too long ago in the last couple of years, they actually went out and tested over the counter medicine formulas that were promoted to be kind of hypoallergenic. They were venison and green pea or whatever they were. And they found that one of them did not have any venison in it at all but it had soy and chicken. So there’s a lot of cross contamination that can happen. The hypoallergenic diets made by Hills and Purina and Royal Canin and whoever else is out there, those are pretty strict. I would go with the canned formula and I would maybe try and rotate those and try different things. There has been some evidence that after a few months, maybe 4, 5, 6 months, you may be able to switch back. But at that point you may be able to go to a home cooked or a raw, commercial raw or homemade raw, whatever you want. I just wouldn’t go back to the diet that you had before. If your cat reacted badly to Meow Mix, don’t feed Meow Mix ever. There’s lots of alternatives. I really like raw and homemade and even canned for cats. You’re just going to have those problems to begin with. It’s easier to rotate your proteins. It’s easier to keep the immune system a little off kilter so it doesn’t freak out every time it sees something new. That’s always a better way to go. Just don’t provoke.Jenny of Floppycats: 오른쪽. 확인. So talking about  prevention and you have mentioned this but again just to lay the question out there, how can you prevent food allergies or intolerances? Go back to rotation?Dr. Jean: 예. Don’t feed dry foods. If you must for some strange reason, you live in a [INAUDIBLE 34:15] and you’re always on the road, you can certainly even arrange other things for that. But if you’re traveling for some reason with your cat and it’s got to have dry food because you’re in the middle of Nevada and that’s all you can find, yes, it’s OK to have your cat be able to eat some dry food if in an emergency. That can be in the repertoire as a treat or something. But if the basic diet is not dry food, you have a lesser chance of creating allergies in the first place. And if you feed a variety of foods, then the immune system isn’t getting the same trigger every day, and it’s things that you feed every day for a long time or frequently for a long time, those are the things that are likely to cause the reaction.Jenny of Floppycats:  OK.Dr. Jean: I think food rotation is great. Most nutritionists do not agree with that. But a few do.Jenny of Floppycats:  I think it is even from a chronic renal failure cat who’s dealing with that and trying to get him to eat anything, I think if he had been exposed to more then I would have had a little more success. So I think it’s beneficial in a lot of ways.Dr. Jean: 오른쪽. And there actually have been studies on a variety of animals and they found that if they’re exposed to a varied diet when they’re very young, just after weaning, 8, 12 weeks old, and you start feeding them a variety maybe then, years later they’ll still be willing to try more things. But cats that are fed dry food from kitten hood, very hard to position because they don’t recognize anything else as food. Canned food isn’t food because that’s not what they’re used to. A different dry food isn’t food because that’s not what they’re used to. I’ve seen cats get into some pretty serious trouble with that because—there was actually—this woman called me and she was looking for Friskies Ocean White Fish that was made at a certain plant because her cat wouldn’t eat anything else. And that plant was closing down. So she was looking for cans with the particular code on the top. She had 142 cans left and if she didn’t find more the cat was going to have some—if he would stop eating, get hepatic lipidosis, probably not make it or just starve himself to death. Cats will do that. Cats are stubborn enough to if they don’t want to eat they will not and they will starve themselves. They’re very unique in that way. Most other animals, when they get that hungry they’ll give in but not cats. Boy, I’m hard headed Norwegian and cats make me look like a wimp.Jenny of Floppycats:  [LAUGHTER] Yes, I experienced that stubbornness in the transition process, very annoying.Dr. Jean: 예. When I was raising my kittens, they got everything. They got raw, they got canned, they got dry, they got every kind, they got lasagna. They were exposed to a wide variety of things. And now they’re pretty easy to change. Put a new food down and they’ll eat it. Now there’s a syndrome in cats where you put a new food down, they’ll eat it for two days like gang busters and they’ll never eat it again. Do not rush out and buy a case of a food that you think your cat really loves. If it passes three or four days and they’re still eating it, maybe yes. Maybe they’re going to be OK. But if they’re used to eating variety—my cats—there are foods that I think are good for my cat just like my mom fed me broccoli. Never liked it, still don’t, but I’m getting over it. I’m really trying. I’ll eat it in Chinese food at this point. But there are foods that I just think are better for them, it’s variety, and I want them to maintain their willingness to eat a variety of things. I’ll put it down until they eat it. Sometimes I have to put cheese on it, or a little baby food or something. But I make them eat it. It’s like tough love in this house. They need to maintain that willingness because you don’t know, we could have a blizzard. We had a fairly good—we had 7 inches of snow on May 1st. So you might not be able to get to the grocery store for a few days and if you run out of that, then you’re in trouble like the Ocean White Fish kitty. You want them to be willing to do that and you’re just going to run into fewer problems over time.Jenny of Floppycats: 예. I talked to a Ragdoll cat breeder one time and she mainly fed her cats raw, but also can and dry food. And I was like what? Why do you feed them dry food at all if you’re into the raw thing? She’s based in Florida and she said I want to expose the kittens to everything so that if there’s a hurricane and I can’t get food they can have food. So yes, it makes sense and it goes back to what you were talking about earlier.Dr. Jean: I keep a little dry food on hand. Sometimes I use it as a treat. If they’re really bugging me, used to keep a bowl of it in my desk drawer because one cat, between me and the computer, that’s OK, I have a good place for that. Two cats can barely fit, and when the third one comes up, it’s like OK. That’s it, and I take a handful of dry, throw it through the door out, and they would be occupied then for a while, and then [INAUDIBLE 41:00] would get to play again. But as a treat, why not? I get popcorn for dinner every once in a while. I can go to Dairy Queen once in a while. I don’t do it every day but once in a while is not going to hurt anything. I’m anti-dry as a mainstay of the diet or even every day. But once in a while as a treat, I do want them to be willing to eat it. So I keep some stashed away. There’s a bag on the top of the refrigerator.Jenny of Floppycats:  Yes.Dr. Jean: You just want lots of options. With a kitty, it’s really, really important because you don’t know when you’re going to really, really need it.Jenny of Floppycats: 예. Hurricanes and snow are not things I really think about in Kansas City, but yes.Dr. Jean: Yes, we had a blizzard a number of years ago in March and we had I think three or four feet of snow. My street got plowed because it was a snow route, it was the ambulances and there is a hospital a few blocks away so that was the main drag for the ambulances and fire trucks so it got plowed. But I couldn’t get my car out for days. It took me a week to dig out. And there was nothing within walking distance if you didn’t have snow shoes and a really stout heart you weren’t going to be getting anything you hadn’t stocked up on beforehand. And that was fine. We got over that. And by the way, when the post office says rain, hail, sleet or snow, they don’t really mean it.Jenny of Floppycats:  Not for three or four feet?Dr. Jean: No, and they actually didn’t deliver for almost a week when everybody else could get out, they still couldn’t deliver the mail. It was really weird because it was way more than what it should be but you know, the post office has its problems. You know how Congress is—that whole thing. Then it snowed a couple of weeks later only 7 inches and we lost power for 4 days. I couldn’t get my car out of the garage because it was a flat roof and the snow weighed it down. The garage door wouldn’t clear it and there was no power. I couldn’t even open it manually. The door wouldn’t budge, and that was a real disaster. So you don’t know. We were out with the hurricanes, people were without power for days, weeks even. It’s good to have keep your supply handy but make sure that you have cats that will go along with that program.Jenny of Floppycats: 예. 확인. I have some questions from readers but you had also mentioned that you wanted to talk about drugs. So did you want to do that before I ask the reader questions?Dr. Jean: Yes, because that’s pretty simple. The number one drug of choice in cats with severe allergies is Prednisolone. It’s a form of steroid. Prednisone is a little different and cats metabolize Prednisolone better and it doesn’t require the liver to get involved. If there’s ever any reason to give Prednisone, you must have Prednisolone. Make sure your vet gives you Prednisolone. So that’s the number one. Sometimes they’ll give an injectable to give you a few weeks of relief in which you can be working on the other things, the diet and all that. Depo Medrol is the common one. One side effect is diabetes and I’ve seen it in cats their first shot of Depo Medrol. They get diabetes.Jenny of Floppycats:  Oh my gosh.Dr. Jean: The very first shot. I had a client, it happened to him twice, which is why he ended up at our clinic. It’s like “I can’t believe this happened to two cats, the same thing, first shot, boom.” Overweight cats are more susceptible because their insulin is already screwed up. If they’re eating dry food their insulin is already screwed up. So you give a steroid on top of it, steroids and insulin work hand in glove. If you have a cat in a diabetic crisis, one of the drugs they give it is steroids. So closely tied in is a known side effect of the Depo drugs so you want to be very careful about that. But if your cat’s really miserable, treat it, even get a shot that lasts a few days, try [INAUDIBLE 46:36] or something that’s just short actin. But you’ve got to give them relief if they’re in pain. Inflammatory bowel disease is painful. If you’ve got an inflamed gut, you are miserable. That’s just not a happy thing. I think maybe in that case they really aren’t having a lot of fun vomiting. It’s just so severe. If they don’t respond to that, there are other drugs Cyclophosphamide, these are chemotherapy drugs. Even Prednisolone is a chemotherapy drug. So what they’re doing is thumping on the immune system and shutting down the immune response, period, right now, right away, for good. This is totally nasty immune system. Then you’re still prone to infections and other lovely things like that. These are serious drugs and they’re useful if you have a real problem and your cat is miserable. I wouldn’t say never use them but I’d say try them and see first. Try not to go there but there are cases where suppose you’ve been traveling and the cat sitter has been cleaning up vomit every day and never bothered to tell you or you weren’t accessible climbing Mount Everest, maybe and you didn’t have a cell phone. I would still carry my iPhone to take pictures I’m sure. But I can imagine scenarios where all of these things would be in the worst possible configuration. You’ve got to be prepared for that kind of thing. I can see situations that could get out of hand and you wouldn’t really realize it. You’ve got 12 cats. You don’t know who’s puking. And by then you figure out it’s the one that’s losing weight. You may be in a tough spot so those drugs do have their place. You want to use them the shortest period of time possible and really be working on getting around it in other ways. Herbs are helpful, acupuncture can be helpful, homeopathy can be helpful, all of these things take time to work. Natural therapies tend to take time.Jenny of Floppycats: 오른쪽. Gradual.Dr. Jean: Yes, because you’re working with the body instead of just shutting it down. I know to dial down something it takes more time and effort than to flip a switch. People have to be prepared for something that they’re going to have to deal with for a while. Stress plays a role in all of this too because stress with the immune system, you can get all kinds of weird reactions from that. I had a kitty that we finally got her dermatitis cleared up, finally. And she came in for her vaccine. It was due for rabies, it was a situation he had little kids. And I said I really don’t want to vaccinate this cat. And he—there was a reason why we really had to do it. And I only gave rabies, and in three weeks she was back with the same.Jenny of Floppycats:  No.Dr. Jean: I said OK, that’s it. 그게 다야 We’ll never again. There are people that absolutely refuse to forgo vaccines, but vaccines call on the immune system for a big response and while it’s in the neighborhood well why not react to something else. So an allergy to anything can show up as skin systems in a cat, anything. It’s difficult to tease apart a skin condition. But very few of them are food allergies. On the other hand, ear infections in cats, more likely to be food allergies. Ear infections, you wouldn’t think, but I had a dermatologist that I worked with at CSU and she said she felt that 50% of cat ear infections were actually allergy based.Jenny of Floppycats:  Wow.Dr. Jean: Yes, I haven’t seen anybody else say that but they don’t usually separate skins and ears and things. Ears respond to steroids, topical steroids. So then you never know what caused it. If you’ve got a chronic bad ear, yes, change the diet.Jenny of Floppycats: 흥미로운. Well that kind of goes into one of the first questions, is there a way to differentiate between food allergies and environmental allergies was one of the reader’s questions.Dr. Jean: 설마. 설마. A diet trial is your first recourse because both could respond to steroids. Allergy testing in cats, there are blood tests for allergies in dogs and there’s skin testing which requires anesthesia, big deal. Neither of them is worth a darn in cats. So really kind of trial treatment is the only way you’re going to know. And the only way you’re going to really know is once they respond to a novel diet you have to start reintroducing other food. If it’s an inhalant allergy, when they start to wear off it’s going to come back for its natural response. Inhalant allergies sometimes respond to a diet change. It gets really complicated. But there’s no good way to differentiate them in a cat, not without a lot of time and effort and you might never know.Jenny of Floppycats:  Right, process of elimination.Dr. Jean: Right, and you may never know. You could try moving to a place that has different allergens if this cat is fighting with an inhalant allergy. But if it’s dust mites, then no matter where you are.Jenny of Floppycats: 예. OK, this one, my rag doll has gas. What kitten food additives could cause this and recommendations?Dr. Jean: Well there are 27 categories of additives that are allowed in pet food and many, many additives in each of the 27 categories. So it’s impossible to say which. However, gas forming bacteria, big one. So digestive enzymes and probiotics.Jenny of Floppycats:  Would be the solution?Dr. Jean: 예. And if you’re feeding dry food, get them off of dry food and especially kittens should not have a major part of their diet as dry food. That’s just wrong on so many levels.Jenny of Floppycats:  You’ve answered this one but just to make it clear because it was asked, can certain foods make a cat throw up?Dr. Jean: Yes, if it’s an intolerance, any of those additives can do it. It could be an allergy. It could be a lot of things. And like I said, cats like to throw up so they will create circumstances for themselves to throw up. They’ll eat your [INAUDIBLE 54:40]. They’ll find something. They’ll find a bug or something to eat to make themselves throw up. It’s just when it gets more frequent then you start to say OK, this may be a real problem. But a kitten throwing up, that’s a problem. So yes, definitely get that checked out.Jenny of Floppycats:  I think this is for an adult cat. Sorry, I should have told you new question. So, new question.Dr. Jean: It would be an issue in kittens.Jenny of Floppycats: 네, 그렇습니다. That’s actually good to know. Here’s the next one. My kitty has a sensitive stomach to cat biscuits/food. Is it healthy to feed them raw mince, I think this might have come from a British reader, or chicken cooked with rice/veg as their diet or will they be lacking in vitamins, minerals, etc.Dr. Jean: Well in extreme cases where you don’t want to use steroids and they’re in bad shape, you can do a meat and rice and maybe a couple of veggies. Veggies don’t add much nutritionally. If they’re cooked then some of the vitamins are gone but they can’t digest then unless they’re cooked or puréed or broken down somehow. There’ll say give ground lamb and rice for a couple of weeks or even a couple of months. But that is not a complete diet. In fact it is very, very difficult to get all the [SILENCE]. So you can do it for a while, not in a kitten, not in a kitten because they need their vitamins and minerals, but now that I’m on kitten, kitten on the brain. But yes, cats need meat. They definitely need meat. You cannot give a cat a vegan diet or even a veggie diet. That’s just ridiculous. I have a fairly extensive article on my website about vegetarian cats on LittleBigCat.Jenny of Floppycats:  I’ll link to it.Dr. Jean: I’ve heard mince used in a couple of different ways. Sometimes it’s the canned or what they would call tinned food. That’s fine, sir. Oh dear, my alarm is going off for some reason. 이유가 궁금합니다. It’s probably reminding me to call you in a different time zone or something. But yes, if you could, just get him off of the dry food because that’s probably part of the problem. But if you’re mincing the meats, sure. But not just minced vegetables and rice, and you don’t want to do it in an unbalanced way for more than a few weeks.Jenny of Floppycats: 확인. The next one, I have a rag doll with apparently a sensitive stomach. He doesn’t throw up all the time but much more frequently than the other two. If he has anything with beef, he throws up within a minute. Is this an allergy or is this hard to digest? I’m speaking of cat foods not table food.Dr. Jean: It could be either one. I saw a remarkable video one time. They had an endoscope in a dog’s stomach that was known to be allergic, I think it was to wheat. They had the endoscope looking at the wall of the stomach and they went in with a drop of concentrated wheat gluten.Jenny of Floppycats:  Oh, how cool.Dr. Jean: And it was like watching a volcano erupt. It touched the stomach and the inflammation was instantaneous and massive. It was just amazing. The dog was under anesthesia.Jenny of Floppycats:  Right, right, but just thinking about him and his everyday life.Dr. Jean: It could be an allergy. I think it’s probably more likely to be an intolerance because either one could cause inflammation. But an allergy involves the whole immune system and the whole antibody response. Once that response is formed, it can be pretty instantaneous but an intolerance is still more likely because there may be something in the food that the stomach has a similar reaction to and says oh no. So it could be either one. It’s hard to say with cats but obviously don’t feed him beef and be aware that natural flavors could include beef. There’s a whole lot of things that beef could be in so you’ve got to be careful. Here’s a point that we ought to make probably is that grain free—there’s nothing intrinsically wrong with grains as opposed to any other carbs. Carbs are not good for cats and low carb diets are best, wheat free or gluten free or corn free or soy free, yes, those all can be allergens. They’re uncommon allergens and if your cat is allergic it’s much more likely to be through a meat. There have been cases where dogs have been proven to be allergic to gluten. They have celiac disease. But it’s real rare, it’s real rare. So if your cat is reacting to something that has corn in it, don’t assume that corn is the culprit because chances are it’s fish or chicken.Jenny of Floppycats:  OK, interesting. OK, the last question says not sure how to word it but with my cat Merlo, we thought for a couple of months we were dealing with food allergies but it turned out to be dry FIP. If we had had diagnosis earlier we would have had the time to try PI or interferon, is that how you say that.Dr. Jean: Yes, interferon doesn’t work particularly well sometimes.Jenny of Floppycats:  And he would not have lost as much weight from trying new foods. So I guess it’s not a question, but…Dr. Jean: Maybe, maybe. Still it’s a fatal disease. It might have bought him a little more time but I would not beat yourself up over that. The food would have been a very minor issue with that going on. In the case of FIP, FIP itself is already an aberrant immune response. It’s a hyper immune response. So now you have an animal that could react to anything at any moment that at the moment is reacting to corona virus or something else. FIP is not caused by the virus. It’s associated with the virus. Flies are associated with garbage. It doesn’t mean flies cause garbage. But the idea that corona virus causes FIP to my mind it’s involved certainly. But is there a causation? There’s not really proof of that in my mind. But you have an immune system that’s reacting abnormally and it’s the inflammation caused by the immune system and the immune plaque and just the crazy immune response. That is what kills them.Jenny of Floppycats:  Yep, that’s awful.Dr. Jean: It’s a horrible disease. And dry FIP can look like anything. It’s very, very tough.Jenny of Floppycats:  Knock on wood. I hope I don’t have to hear much more about those sort of stories. Awful.Dr. Jean: 예. And FIP is not as contagious as everybody thinks, and the vaccine is completely worthless. Do not vaccinate your cat for FIP.Jenny of Floppycats:  [LAUGHTER] Sorry, just completely worthless just made me laugh.Dr. Jean: Well it is, it is, and there’s not an expert on the planet, anybody that really understands the immune system, nobody recommends that vaccine, or FIV for that matter.Jenny of Floppycats:  I know that vaccinations is on our list of topics so hopefully we can cover that soon. Is there anything else that you wanted to touch on?Dr. Jean: Well the vaccine allergy connection, that’s certainly there. Let me look at our list here. Yes, I think we’re good. I think we’re good.Jenny of Floppycats:  Well thank you so much for your time and I look forward to future interviews.Dr. Jean: Yes, we’ll do it when I get back from my trip. I’m getting ready way early. The weather up there is pretty good even, it has been for months which is unusual. I think by the time we get there it will be all good. And bear 399, the grizzly that lives in our neighborhood, he has three new cubs. So her last three cubs are still in the area and the two surviving cubs from the previous litter are also there. So now we have at least 5 in the area. How about that.Jenny of Floppycats:  That is really cool.Dr. Jean: 예. We used to see mostly black bears but now we see more grizzlies, like see them. We see a lot of grizzlies up there now. So it’s wonderful that their population is rebounding and 399 she’s a very smart bear. She hangs around culture bay and the human habitation because the big males will not come in there. Her cubs are safe from males that are not the father who would kill the cubs if they catch them, but they won’t come in that close to humans. She is a smart bear.Jenny of Floppycats:  [LAUGHTER] Sounds like it. Well that’s cool that you get to experience that every year because well it’s something more to look forward to.Dr. Jean: 예. I’m going to go over this afternoon and repair the screen house that the curious bears kind of tore apart last year.Jenny of Floppycats: 좋은. Well thank you again and I’ll reach out next month sometime and I’ll certainly let you know when this gets transcribed and up on the site.Dr. Jean: OK, perfect.Jenny of Floppycats:  Thanks and have so much fun.Dr. Jean: If I just sit in my hammock for two weeks I’ll have fun.Jenny of Floppycats:  I get it.Dr. Jean: Yes.Jenny of Floppycats:  All right, well I will talk to you soon.Dr. Jean: 확인. Take careJenny of Floppycats: 좋은 주말 보내세요. Bye.Dr. Jean: 안녕히 계세요.